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I wrote Dismantling Religion because truth does not need protection from questions. You do not have to agree with the claims in this forum. You do need to test them. Each discussion takes one inherited Christian assumption, puts Scripture, history, language, and lived experience on the table, and asks what follows if the evidence points somewhere unexpected.

Read critically. Bring counterevidence. Tell us where the argument holds—and where it does not.

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Scripture says God regretted, relented, responded, tested, replaced covenants, and entered genuinely new relationships. Classical theology answers that God only appeared to change because perfection supposedly requires immutability. But that definition came to Western Christianity through Greek philosophy, especially Augustine—not through Abraham, Moses, the prophets, or Jesus. God’s constancy is not frozen posture. It is His unchanging commitment to love, a love free enough to listen, respond, and move relationship forward. He changed slaves into friends, external law into inward guidance, exclusion into global inclusion, and punishment into restoration. A God who cannot respond may be philosophically tidy. He is not the God Scripture actually introduces.

Before we walk through it: Name the assumption you brought with you. Then test whether the evidence lets you keep it.

The Argument

  • Scripture repeatedly shows God changing His mind — Moses interceding and God relenting (Exodus 32), Nineveh spared (Jonah 3), Hezekiah given 15 more years (2 Kings 20), God regretting making Saul k...
  • The doctrine of immutability was imported from Plato's doctrine of static perfection via Augustine of Hippo, who fused Greek philosophical categories (timelessness, impassibility, immutability) int...
  • Jesus defined perfection (teleios, Matthew 5:48) as wholeness/maturity, not flawlessness. Jesus Himself 'grew in wisdom and stature' (Luke 2:52) and 'learned obedience through suffering' (Hebrews 5:8).

Key Scriptures

  • Exodus 32:14
  • Genesis 6:6
  • Jonah 3:10
  • Numbers 14:12-20
  • Amos 7:3-6
  • Jeremiah 18:7-10
  • Jeremiah 26:19
  • 2 Kings 20:1-6
  • 1 Samuel 15:11
  • Malachi 3:6
  • Matthew 5:48
  • Luke 2:52
  • Hebrews 4:15
  • Hebrews 5:8
  • John 15:15
  • Hebrews 8:7
  • 1 John 4:18

Over to You

When Scripture says God changed His mind, which text requires us to treat the statement as appearance rather than reality—and what do we lose by doing so?

From Dismantling Religion by Chris Drake — Chapter 3: The God Who Grows

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